Episode Transcript
[00:00:04] Speaker A: Segrete trace di memoria due Emil Aventisei.
La dicciotesi medizione della rasegna Internazionale arra contata dalle voce degli artisti.
I'm here with Sabina Sacco, is that right?
One of the artists here at Segrete. Sabina, can you tell us about your art pieces?
[00:00:36] Speaker B: It's a series called Paris La A Story.
And it's about the life of my grandfather when he was a young man. While tracing my grandfather's life, I came across the Cartier Latin in Paris in the early 1930s. I found some old pictures and diaries from him. And that's the base of my series. And my grandfather was then in the Cartilata in Paris. There he met with other artists and intellectuals, dreamers in small, dimly lit bars and cafes, living, loving, working, discussing the Communist party of Germany, KPD, in the early 1930s.
And they talked about art and philosophy.
As everyone knows, the atmosphere slowly changed. At first there was still laughter.
They were working, laughing, hanging around. But then the danger drew ever closer, hanging over them like the sword of Democlass.
The first deportations took place. The book burning in Berlin and so on. Now people only whispered, secretly, exchanging addresses. And they tried to hide people. They lived in constant fear that everything would be exposed. They smoked and drank a lot. And that's precisely what I tried to capture. How the atmosphere slowly changed. The Resistance in Paris was forming. My grandfather was one of the youngest prisoners, at 21, in the Kemna concentration camp in 1933. And then he came out, luckily, after being in Paris. Then he traveled. He goes further on. And he traveled to Paris. And there he was arrested on a train to Berlin and placed in solitary confinement by the Gestapo in Munich, where Sophie Scholl and Willi Graf, you know them, very young people in the Resistance in Germany. They were young students. And they were also there murdered in the confinement by the Gestapo in Munich. The executions were carried out alphabetically.
His name began with Sin Stroop.
That's why I'm standing here.
[00:02:49] Speaker A: And let's talk something practical. In your paintings we see a lot of dark areas and a lot of more white areas. What was your idea behind that?
[00:03:00] Speaker B: I want that it should look like a little bit like everyone is hiding because it was dangerous to live there. But on the other way, they wanted to come out, to work, to find love and to discuss.
And the darkness is like they feel they had to hide themselves. And it has to be in secret, everything.
[00:03:33] Speaker A: Thank you.
